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Adjustable weights who's using them and what brand

TurboJamie said:
I was able to test my combination yesterday with jaw dropping results to say the least. I’ve been chasing the correct weight placement and figure I’ve nailed it. QAP4 weights with longest set screw hanging out the heels as far as I can without hitting the clutch. Dalton white green primary with dalton white secondary spring. Racing my dads assault we were ski to ski new. My sled is absolutely dominating his now start to finish it’s just gone. I let him go first and by 660’ I’ve caught and passed him and I’m pulling away. Impressed.
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What are the #'s for this Dalton white secondary? I cant seem to find them.
 
At 76grams with adjustables are you guys loading the tip or the heel?
I have the 66gr slp magnums and still testing. Stock springs and helix.
290lbs test rider.
 
I’ve kind of hit a wall and plan to move in a different direction. Friday I couldn’t make my belt stop slipping. Rpm down 700 rpm sled felt like a turd. Ended up pulling all my clutching to inspect the clutches. Cleaned them as well as the faces and went back out. Rpm was barely 8100, and laying down after 600 or so feet dropping rpm. So I cleaned the faces again and put my gboost belt on.

8000-8150 sometimes it will flash 8200. Ran fastest top speed so far on packed snow. Not a plowed road 115 mph. Much more consistent performance now, rpm is always spot on. I won’t be tuning around the Polaris belt anymore.

My sled pulls harder, feels more aggressive, and walks the stock one with ease. The gboost belt works excellent. Now we’ll see how durable it is.
 
TurboJamie said:
I’ve kind of hit a wall and plan to move in a different direction. Friday I couldn’t make my belt stop slipping. Rpm down 700 rpm sled felt like a turd. Ended up pulling all my clutching to inspect the clutches. Cleaned them as well as the faces and went back out. Rpm was barely 8100, and laying down after 600 or so feet dropping rpm. So I cleaned the faces again and put my gboost belt on.

8000-8150 sometimes it will flash 8200. Ran fastest top speed so far on packed snow. Not a plowed road 115 mph. Much more consistent performance now, rpm is always spot on. I won’t be tuning around the Polaris belt anymore.

My sled pulls harder, feels more aggressive, and walks the stock one with ease. The gboost belt works excellent. Now we’ll see how durable it is.
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The stock Polaris belts are good for durability but not good for long term performance. You probably seen the belt getting a glaze on it and the primary clutch was getting a slight black coating on from the belt slipping even through the belt will still look new. You can scuff up the belt that will help it for a short period of time but the slippage will come back. If you keep eye on your clutches and belt running a softer belt will be fine. It's the guys that just keep on riding until and never look at anything until the belt blows it the reason they have such a hard and expensive belt in. I still run a Polaris belt but scuff up the belt when I clean the clutches ever 500 to 700 miles. Was finally was able to ride Friday and Saturday have have a little over 500 miles on now. Time to clean and inspect the sled today.
 
Doug said:
The stock Polaris belts are good for durability but not good for long term performance. You probably seen the belt getting a glaze on it and the primary clutch was getting a slight black coating on from the belt slipping even through the belt will still look new. You can scuff up the belt that will help it for a short period of time but the slippage will come back. If you keep eye on your clutches and belt running a softer belt will be fine. It's the guys that just keep on riding until and never look at anything until the belt blows it the reason they have such a hard and expensive belt in. I still run a Polaris belt but scuff up the belt when I clean the clutches ever 500 to 700 miles. Was finally was able to ride Friday and Saturday have have a little over 500 miles on now. Time to clean and inspect the sled today.
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I wasn’t aware the Polaris belts just gave up like that. Literally like a light switch. I thought my power valves were screwed up or engine was dying! It just killed performance. Glad it was just a quick swap and performance was back. Your spot on my clutches were just black from it. Lots of abuse on the gboost today trying to make the sled fade nothing. The only thing I notice that happens is if I get the belt really hot running back to back passes wot down the lake 4000’ or so is that it’s gotta work a bit to get to 8150. It comes out 7950 then will build to 8150 around 85 mph.
 
I ordered myself a Speedwerx H5 155/300 Primary spring which I intend to do the remainder of my tuning around this season.

So far my best all around performing / consistent performance setup is;

Stock primary
Gboost Belt - DBPO1177
Stock secondary with Dalton white spring.

This has been the fastest and quickest which I attribute mostly to the sticky belt. I would like to see 50 - 100 rpm more up top and I'll be very happy. Sled turns 8150 nice now but I want closer to 8250 on a really cold day and then room for a bit less RPM when it warms up. I am hoping the extra 10 lbs finish force on the H5 will get me close to that.
 
Got to put a measly 120 miles on today. Really cold here. Probably going to tune around this belt as I really like the way it works.

all stock except for Dalton white secondary dart spring and Gboost belt.

I am going to have to do a little clutching the belt is super sticky so it drags the motor down a bit mostly in the mid range. If it’s from a dig the thing rocks perfect 8150. Tuning 55-65 ish mph if you pin it you get 7900-8000 and by 85 ish your sitting at 8150.

I’d like to just get that mid range to charge 8150 instantly but I’m not sure I’ll be able to.
 
I installed the Delrin washers in my secondary this morning to test. Hopefully they don’t make the helix act steeper. We’ll see!

I’m hoping to get a couple passes on my TD GPS today.
 
TurboJamie said:
I installed the Delrin washers in my secondary this morning to test. Hopefully they don’t make the helix act steeper. We’ll see!

I’m hoping to get a couple passes on my TD GPS today.
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The needle bearing or delrin washers will give you consistency in your clutch shifting more an a performance gain
 
I’m calling it guys. I don’t know for the mo eh if you could do much more with a full clutch kit.

Gboost belt
Dalton white secondary
2 delrin washers

Stock everything else this setup just rocks. Now with the washers it’s so consistent. Absolutely love the way it works, shifts, and how fast it is. 117 on the Speedo is common!

Wins every race vs my GF Assault, dads and buddies.
 
TurboJamie said:
I’m calling it guys. I don’t know for the mo eh if you could do much more with a full clutch kit.

Gboost belt
Dalton white secondary
2 delrin washers

Stock everything else this setup just rocks. Now with the washers it’s so consistent. Absolutely love the way it works, shifts, and how fast it is. 117 on the Speedo is common!

Wins every race vs my GF Assault, dads and buddies.
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Add the delrin washer to the primary that will help any binding you see on the primary. If you look at the jam nut on the primary you probably see some chaffing on there. Add a delrin washer from Venom to the primary.
 
TurboJamie said:
I’m calling it guys. I don’t know for the mo eh if you could do much more with a full clutch kit.

Gboost belt
Dalton white secondary
2 delrin washers

Stock everything else this setup just rocks. Now with the washers it’s so consistent. Absolutely love the way it works, shifts, and how fast it is. 117 on the Speedo is common!

Wins every race vs my GF Assault, dads and buddies.
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I'm a bit surprised that 160/240 white secondary spring isn't killing your MPH. Generally anything over a 222 finish rate in the secondary and it slows you down from what I've seen/tested.
 
trdehmer said:
I'm a bit surprised that 160/240 white secondary spring isn't killing your MPH. Generally anything over a 222 finish rate in the secondary and it slows you down from what I've seen/tested.
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i was thinking the same thing yesterday didnt want to post and ruffle feathers .
 
flasch192 said:
i was thinking the same thing yesterday didnt want to post and ruffle feathers .
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trdehmer said:
I'm a bit surprised that 160/240 white secondary spring isn't killing your MPH. Generally anything over a 222 finish rate in the secondary and it slows you down from what I've seen/tested.
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Was this speed loss using the stiffer finish spring on a TSS-04 or a Team Tied ? The reason I ask is I'm using a team tied(66/62f and 64/60f with 155/220) and to me it seems to shift out easier than the tss-04, almost to the point you could run a stiffer spring than with the Tss-04 but still maintain as good of acceleration.
 
flasch192 said:
i was thinking the same thing yesterday didnt want to post and ruffle feathers .
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You wouldn't ruffle any of my feathers. My assault routinely runs 115 mph indicated on the display. My assault is considerably faster than the other 3 I have been with using my clutching. When it was bone stock I was side by side with the other ones. With my changes its clearly much faster. I can drive away from the others anytime we pull the trigger.

I don't know why the stiffer spring would cause loss of MPH, the secondary on the Assault slips when its stock because the spring is too weak. This TSS04 IMO isn't much different than a Doo QRS spring that runs 200/300 force springs and still runs mph. In the past we used the Team clutches on drag sleds and always ran the stiffest springs we could buy for them on the big sleds.


My Current setup is as follows

Bone stock primary (about to change to a speedwerx 155/300 H5 spring)

Secondary has Dalton White with 2 delrin washers

GBoost belt.
 
Are you guys seeing similar results with the red and black (140/240) secondary with delrins or bearing?
Would I need some more primary weight using the stock belt with that setup?
Seems the gboost belt is pulling the rpms down on its own?
 
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