Ski doo has been # 1 for a long time but they are losing market share to the Axys . In response they have come up with their new 850 MXZx and renegade. A lot of changes that resemble the Axys by moving things forward . But from what I see so far it should preform better than last years MXZx but still front end heavy compared to the Axys chassis. IMO the Axys will be a better handling sled .And yet Ski Doo is # 1 in sales.