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They also did some really weird stuff with options for some models this year. Example, switchback assault 800 with 2" track is only available with E.S., and I'm pretty sure XCR switchback is only available with E.S. of course unless you snowchecked then you could get w/ever you want.

There's probably going to be a new platform, not sure if just a new chassis or new engine and chassis. Just an educated guess, they'll have a new pro-rmk. They lost some market share to the 850 last year, and cat is catching up pretty quick, the new mtn cat is as close to a pro-rmk as they've...

They made some changes to the 800 mill and nothing to the 600. The 2018 800s are getting a new thermostat, that you already know uses a new head. Top and bottom piston rings are now the same thickness. The engineers told me they switched due to a manufacturing issue, supposedly the manu. had...

Some 2018 sleds have started to come in already! Last month I got a Switchback pro-s 800 and a Switchback Adventure 600. No snowchecks yet.

The large squish probably has to do with wide variety of fuel quality. Some people run some really shitty fuel through their sleds so they need to run a larger clearance to try and help prevent detonation.

They are sort of starting to increase the cold engine temp protections. They control the EVES position based on engine temp, they progressively open as the engine warms up.

The problem with the Gripper skis on the trail isn't the keel height, it's the rocker of the keel. It makes for easy steering on the trail but they're not aggressive enough for an aggressive trail rider, in the conditions I ride in. We ran some Simmons Gen III skis on our demo and they were...

Good information. We haven't had many piston issues on the 800 H.O. I feel like a coated OEM piston would last quite a while and would be what I would do on my personal snowmobile if I had to replace pistons.

Should be pretty interesting to see how it holds up. I'm not a big fan of the cylinder spacers or BMP so that would be my biggest concerns.

These are all things I posted on HCS after the dealer show. It's nice to see these little improvements. The bearing cage being changed to plastic was due to the metal cage failing from fatigue, ironically the only crank we've had fail was on a 16 with the plastic cage. The ring thickness...

I'm sure it is part of the reason. That being said, if shutting down Victory is helping them out financially then I would assume that Victory wasn't making any money and was in fact costing them money. Also now that Victory is out of the picture, they have more resources to use for Indian.

I agree it is a very durable engine. Most of the engine failures we've seen so far is due to something out of the ordinary. Like the crank bearings, we never had crank issues on the CFI 800 engines. The E-VES guillotine breaking and falling into the engine, this shouldn't be happening. If...

I talked about this with the engineers at the dealer show. This was more of an issue on the 16s but we've still seen it happen on some 17s. Like you said it's a calibration issue. The injectors obviously have a range that they have to flow, some will flow more and some will flow less. If you...

I've also seen a pto bearing let go with relatively low miles. According to the engineers they switched to a bearing with a plastic cage to prevent this. Supposedly the steel cage couldn't handle the fatigue on the PTO side of the crank and would come apart sometimes prematurely. We had an...

I was just talking about engine issues, but absolutely 0 relay issues. Yes we've pulled them off to apply die-electric grease but that's it. Bogie wheel failures are quite common, along with bearing failures. We've been able to get quite a few of them warrantied if you're still under the 1st...

Being a dealer we get to repair a lot of snowmobiles throughout the winter. Sometimes we'll notice a trend, and sometimes just one time weird issues. Either way I figured I would share some of these issues with you guys. Might possibly help you to diagnose an issue you are having with your...

I guess I didn't explain it good enough. That model was not a prototype, but our snowmobile was. It was called a prototype because they were pre-productions units. Some dealers had the option to get these sleds to put miles on them before they were on the assembly line.

Oh sorry, gen II. First year of the 600 VES and only year with it in the Gen II

To be completely honest, I've never seen clips get worn from them and this is the first I ever hear of it. I've never personally used them on anything but snow though, and to be honest they probably never really got hot on any of our sleds considering we can get close to 10000 miles on oem...

The drama free aspect is what brought me here. I know you can order them from SLP among some other companies, but we get them direct from the source as it's only 40 miles from us.