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Pipe shoot out dec 22

For one of the guys who did the pipe testing, I just have a question. I'm not doubting you but I am just wondering, if you made the map at dtr for the pipe mod, at say 50 degrees f, how would that same map work when in riding conditions at 0 degrees f?
 
The Pcv set the fuel and timing and doesn't over ride the ecu to calibrate for the temperature,elevation,air intake temp,pipe temp,etc.......

Your fine
 
ttraynor said:
Please us know if that works. I am basically doing the same mods--Terralps head/Pistons/SLP pipe/Can to be determined--or stock--and PCV with Dynotech shootout map.

Thanks!
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I took the head off today and put the stock one back on,going on a trip and don't want to have mess with it and worry about detonation mode kicking in,I might try again or just sell the head and pcv
 
Kerrdog569 said:
I took the head off today and put the stock one back on,going on a trip and don't want to have mess with it and worry about detonation mode kicking in,I might try again or just sell the head and pcv
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No need to worry DTR map is all good . ran all day in Cochrane ontario most of the day WOT pulls one after the other for long period of time . In both eth and non eth mode.. Using fuel from different gas stations no issues at all.
Map is safe I am running PCV , Bikeman pipe and head.
 
Doo2Poo said:
No need to worry DTR map is all good . ran all day in Cochrane ontario most of the day WOT pulls one after the other for long period of time . In both eth and non eth mode.. Using fuel from different gas stations no issues at all.
Map is safe I am running PCV , Bikeman pipe and head.
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Not for me,I would get det mode no matter which mode I ran in,the ssi head must have more compression or the pipe mod might push more sound wave back in the cylinders causing more compression, either way its off for now til I talk to Erich and see what's going on,originally he told me I could just run a resistor and be fine,not so much
 
did you guys test the SSI can???? even if it equaled the stock muffler ,I'm ok with this as I want less weight???

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When we were at dynotech the muffler picked up 3 hp. We felt very good with the results, especially since most stock mufflers make decent power.
My goal for horsepower gains is usually more geared towards the pipe. The pipe makes 8-9 hp on average.
 
JimCamp said:
did you guys test the SSI can???? even if it equaled the stock muffler ,I'm ok with this as I want less weight???

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When we were at dynotech the muffler picked up 3 hp. We felt very good with the results, especially since most stock mufflers make decent power.
My goal for horsepower gains is usually more geared towards the pipe. The pipe makes 8-9 hp on average.
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They didn't test the ssi muffler,I had one and I recommend sticking with stock,it's a nice unit but has bad drone @4800-5800rpms,just being honest with ya
 
Kerrdog569 said:
Not for me,I would get det mode no matter which mode I ran in,the ssi head must have more compression or the pipe mod might push more sound wave back in the cylinders causing more compression, either way its off for now til I talk to Erich and see what's going on,originally he told me I could just run a resistor and be fine,not so much
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DOOTOPOO HAS AN OPEN INTERNAL PIPE, YOUR PIPE MOD IS CAUSING A LITTLE MORE HEAT BACK IN THE MOTOR, OR THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON WITH HIS HEAD DESIGN. NO CAN RIGHT?
 
Dr.Notadoo said:
DOOTOPOO HAS AN OPEN INTERNAL PIPE, YOUR PIPE MOD IS CAUSING A LITTLE MORE HEAT BACK IN THE MOTOR, OR THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON WITH HIS HEAD DESIGN. NO CAN RIGHT?
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Correct I'm using the stock muffler,I even put the stock head back on and took the PCV out,I'm picking my sled up tomorrow,they did a update reflash on the ecu and reset the Tpms baseline to the correct specs,I'll try it again to see if this helps,if all is well I can put everything back on and try again
 
Mine is a 16 and DET's with SSI pipe mod, PCV map and SSI clutch kit, stock head. In same situations as you stated usually quick on off full throttle not usually wide open long runs. Im pretty sure most of the aftermarket heads actually have less compression with better cooling not sure the case with the ssi. Is 10% 1 number greater for the PCV map?
 
coryatver said:
Mine is a 16 and DET's with SSI pipe mod, PCV map and SSI clutch kit, stock head. In same situations as you stated usually quick on off full throttle not usually wide open long runs. Im pretty sure most of the aftermarket heads actually have less compression with better cooling not sure the case with the ssi. Is 10% 1 number greater for the PCV map?
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I'm gonna do a compression test to compare the two at some point,stock head last time I rode was running between 110-120 without the t-stat, ssi head was 104-107 in similar conditions, 1 is 1% on your pcv, I've talked with a few guys that have the pipe mod and are running in 91 non eth mod and have no issues without a pcv so its weird you and I have the exact same thing going on
 
had my TPS reset and valves relearned on my 15 with SSI and PC5 at 0-5F and no det,,, 91 mode ,, ran several runs 1/2 mile WOT no issues still dialing in clutching though! was running 8250-8300
 
my buddy just put bikeman pipe what is the target Rpm for this pipe he has all of the recommended stuff just no adjustable timming 2015 800 axis
thanks
 
just installed this bikeman pipe there about 4 dents in this pipe is that normal
 
Dr.Notadoo said:
Yes
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we have the following
1.74,120/310 primary 140/220 secondary bikeman pipe in eth mode we are running 68 gram belly busters we had 10 series 70 grams would rev enough pcv5 back
ordered with the timing how much will that wake this thing up
 
MR INDY said:
we have the following
1.74,120/310 primary 140/220 secondary bikeman pipe in eth mode we are running 68 gram belly busters we had 10 series 70 grams would rev enough pcv5 back
ordered with the timing how much will that wake this thing up
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I have a pcv with timing for sale that has the dtr map on it,$375
 
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