When you kick the ass of a quad around in a corner requires a lower gear. Just saying.
RD do you have the service manual?? I could use some torque values till mine comes in. I guess all involved, clutch cover, helix, gear, chaincase cover, did I miss any? If you can thanks.
Wow that first part wasn't for you.
I understand that! But i said LIKE, A quad has instant throttle response. A sled doesn't, clutch has to backshift first. So gearing means nothing at this point at a slower speed. Lower gear or high gear, with same clutching, the belt is gonna be riding in same spot on clutch and clutch is still gonna react the same
First bold. That's cause it has gears and not a CVT like a sled. Second bold. No it won't as the secondary is torque sensitive. It senses a lighter load, it doesn't have to work as hard. A heavier load means that it senses a heavier load and can not possibly react as quickly as a sled with lower gearing. It's not rocket science.
Yes I do. If i have time early Sat morn i will try to post the numbers. Gear?
I think he means bottom sprocket Dave.
Probably, so making a simple spring change can fix the spot i think needs improving. So thats what i plan to try.
In flat out races with people out on trail or lake not one of them had timers. They go by a marker in snow. So until i start getting beat that way i dont agree with gear change. So many different options to change with clutching, why wouldn't it work with one and not the other. I haven't seen any proven results from gearing change, next to a sled that didn't have gearing. Have any to show? Im not saying u guys are wrong. I just don't agree there is no in between.
BF u going to East vs West shoot out? Im planning on going, depending on date. But ill be bringing a stock geared sled to compare to geared.
Idk, but to compare snoX to trail sled is where we differ.in the red
The cvt system is ONLY in backshift when when throttle is let off and put back on. In this instance the cvt system is in backshift mode ONLY. When a steady throttle position is applied the cvt system is only upshifting and this is were the lower gear ratio does come into play as it will upshift quicker and have a quicker response. Gearing means everything.
By that term analogy that you just mentioned "gearing has nothing to do at slower speed". I guess ALL the sno x teams should have there sleds geared for 112 mph at 8250 rpm on the sno x track(1.61 ratio)?????? I guess sno x teams have been doing it all wrong for all these years by gearing to 70 and 80 mph at their peak rpm???
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying to prove a point about how efficient a lower gear ratio can be.
Ind the end, it's your choice on any changes made my friend.
The 1.74 was faster with same clutching as 1.61?I posted back awhile ago about results we had with the 1.61 ratio vs the 1.73 and 1.74 ratios in 1500 feet on the lake. The same day,same sled,same driver. The 1.61 ratio got 102 mph tops out of 3 runs. The 1.73 and 1.74 ratios got 108 mph in that same distance out of 3 runs. Plus the 1.73 and 1.74 ratios were 3 sleds lengths faster. The only reason we did this is because of the new 2015 gear change and we wanted to see how much effect it had being that tall from factory.
Just so you know, I don't post anything thats not true
I used it as a instance, as i was looking to get my track to react to throttle. As some didn't seem to understand! I guess snowmobile guys dont know the term 'Blip'?
http://www.sledgear.com/TRAtech.htmin the red
The cvt system is ONLY in backshift when when throttle is let off and put back on. In this instance the cvt system is in backshift mode ONLY. When a steady throttle position is applied the cvt system is only upshifting and this is were the lower gear ratio does come into play as it will upshift quicker and have a quicker response. Gearing means everything.
By that term analogy that you just mentioned "gearing has nothing to do at slower speed". I guess ALL the sno x teams should have there sleds geared for 112 mph at 8250 rpm on the sno x track(1.61 ratio)?????? I guess sno x teams have been doing it all wrong for all these years by gearing to 70 and 80 mph at their peak rpm???
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying to prove a point about how efficient a lower gear ratio can be.
Ind the end, it's your choice on any changes made my friend.
So you just keep going and trying to prove yourself. Now your copying and pasting articles to try and prove someone else is wrong and your right??
